New York Times Bestseller Award - break it down?

Hey all.
So the New York Times Bestseller award seems to break when you try to load it. It's over 10,700 books long and of course more are added almost weekly.

https://www.librarything.com/bookaward/New+York+Times+bestseller

So can I propose we split it into categories? I was thinking Fiction (then sub categories are listed in the parenthesis) and Nonfiction (then sub categories are listed in the parenthesis). That might help a little?

Normally, I'm a lumper, put it all together in one, but this one has shown that some just need to be broken apart.

What are your thoughts?

I'm in favor FWIW. (I also wish all similar 'honors' were a separate CK from actual awards, but that another issue altogether.)

This is how the NYT itself breaks them down:

Weekly Best Sellers Lists
Fiction

Combined Print & E-Book Fiction
Hardcover Fiction
Paperback Trade Fiction

Nonfiction

Combined Print & E-Book Nonfiction
Hardcover Nonfiction
Paperback Nonfiction
Advice, How-To & Miscellaneous

CHILDREN’S

Children’s Middle Grade Hardcover
Children’s Picture Books
Children’s Series
Young Adult Hardcover

Monthly Best Sellers Lists
Audio Fiction
Audio Nonfiction
Business
Graphic Books and Manga
Mass Market
Middle Grade Paperback
Young Adult Paperback

>3 lilithcat:
So the Monthly bestsellers is just Mass Market, no breakdown at all for fiction?

Guess that asks how granular we want to get with the "award" for this.

I've always thought this more a list than an award, but everyone stuck it here. And as long as it's here, I want it to work correctly. Which at the numbers we have now, it is not.

There is a long-standing bug with award CK; I'd hesitate to begin such a large undertaking as this project until that gets resolved: https://www.librarything.com/topic/335703

>5 Nevov: Apologies, posted the wrong link, that one specifically references awards, it's tied into this one, which is the long-standing CK bug with pipes and years, square brackets and such: https://www.librarything.com/topic/145603

>4 gilroy:

I've always thought this more a list than an award,

It is. It's not an award. I consider an "award" to mean something based on merit, not sales, or some random person's opinion. But people continually enter lists like "# Books to read before you die". Makes me crazy.

>5 Nevov: Technically, both of those bugs have the same problem. However, they'd not be an issue here. There's be no pipes involved.
And they made it so commas don't convert to pipes again.

My fear is even if we make the proposal for breaking down the NYT Bestseller perfectly sound, by definition these 10 000+ works are popular so feature many other awards in their CK, and it's those other lines that the bug potentially interferes with, causing potentially a lot of collateral damage. Certainly not to say it can't be done with careful edits, copy/paste to preserve the other awards, etc. Just compelled to sound that cautionary note so we can go in with eyes open.

>9 Nevov: Well, the good news is that it doesn't seem to break when you do edits. Just did a book as a test.
https://www.librarything.com/work/17171428

>10 gilroy:

Yeah I think it should only change and store the actual entry you edit and save. So the other awards should be safe.

https://www.librarything.com/bookaward/New+York+Times+Fiction+Bestseller
https://www.librarything.com/bookaward/New+York+Times+Children%27s+Bestseller
https://www.librarything.com/bookaward/New+York+Times+Nonfiction+Bestseller

So I started with three breaks with the subcategories underneath just to see what people think. (I've not done a lot, just a few here and there.) As I look, I'm realizing these don't specify weekly or monthly. Not sure if we want that to matter or not.

I've also noted we have quite a few in the prime best seller link that don't have a year attached. Not sure how much research we want to do on those...